A Stall Liner
practically eliminates the need for bedding. Use your bedding to provide comfort
for your horses, mules, llamas and alpacas; not to absorb their urine. Save
money instantly when using a Stall Liner
in your stalls.
- A True Stall Saver -
-----Original Message----- From: Jodie Briggs Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:58 PM To: email@example.com Subject: Stall Liners
First of all I wanted to thank your husband for
delivering the stall liners to me on his way to Duluth! I really
appreciated it! Secondly, I wanted to tell you how much I LOVE the
liners. I dug the leech pits as directed and then put down the liners.
I am using the pelleted cedar bedding and most days I can barely find
where they are peeing! I am throwing out the manure, very little bedding
and so far I'm just scraping the pee spots - letting them air dry and
then putting the bedding back over the top. I love how the plastic pitch
fork slides over this material. It makes cleaning so much easier. I hope
they work as well in the winter in an unheated barn. For now, I am
wondering why every horse owner isn't using these liners!
Thanks again! Jodie Briggs Cambridge, MN
----Original Message----- From: HIll VIew Farms Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:33 AM To: Jodie Briggs Subject: Re: Stall Liners
I KNOW on the stall liners/stall skins - they are soooo wonderful. AND you will not be disappointed come winter either!!! I've had them for YEARS and love them each day I muck stalls! People just are slow to change, I guess... they do not know what they are missing. Thank You. Sincerely, ~Cathy Sheets Tauer -"Helping one customer at a time" B.S. Animal Science, Certified Equine Massage Sports Therapist - President of Hill View Farms. For a free catalog of "Proven Products for Horse and Rider", to place an order / have questions: Fax, email or call 507-723-5937, Toll Free 866-723-5937, Cell 507-276-8571. Full retail store, saddle & tack repair, distributor of ToeStoppers & Evolutionary Saddles. Hill View Farms, 41564 Co. Hwy 4, Morgan, MN 56266. Add www.hillviewfarms.com to your favorites.
What is a Stall Liner?
A Stall Liner is an extremely durable one piece, seamless mat made of carpet-like permeable non-woven polypropylene material. It greatly reduces bedding requirements by allowing the urine to run through it.
What makes Stall
The Stall Liner will reduce your costs on bedding and the expenses involved with the removal of waste. The Stall Liner will reduce the ammonia build up associated with traditional barn management practices. With the Stall Liner your investment will pay for itself in one year alone - then over and over after that.
Why is Stall Liner better than rubber mats?
conventional rubber mats, a Stall Liner will not
allow urine to puddle on the surface. When urine puddles on the surface (as
on any flooring that does not drain properly) it is absorbed by expensive
bedding - bedding that must be removed. With Stall
Liners the urine does not puddle on the surface, but easily flows
through so your bedding does not absorb it. Consequently, much less bedding is
removed when the stall is cleaned. It is a simple equation: Less bedding to
remove = savings on bedding and the time required to clean the stall.
Stall Liners are heavy-duty in durability but very lightweight, about 40 pounds for a one-piece 12’ x12’ stall unit. For the same size stall, six rubber mats are needed, each weighting ~ 90 pounds. When that 540 pounds is placed on an earthen surface, it will shift and at some point require adjusting.
Stall Liners can be easily removed, transported and reinstalled elsewhere.
Having a one piece Stall Liner means no seams will rise up, thus keeping manure and bedding from wedging underneath creating a haven for bacteria and thrush-like organisms. The smooth surface also eliminates incidences of: pulled shoes, lameness issues, a horse getting his leg twisted under one of these 90-pound mats
Stall Liners never become slick or slippery. Newborn foals and the disabled, older animals have no issues getting up or down. No struggling at all, and no foals being admitted to veterinary hospitals for treatment of open raw-flesh-spots caused by flailing about in an effort to stand. Many clinics now use a Stall Liner for this very reason and because Stall Liner can be used with little to no bedding during foaling, thus avoiding any risk of inhalation of particles into the foals lungs.
There will never be a time when your Stall Liner will get packed solid with waste as can happen even with interlocking honey comb mats. No stopped-up drainage or associated costs of correcting drainage issues every 3 years. If you ever need to work on your Stall Liner or the drainage bed underneath, it is a simple one-day task. All you have to do is roll or fold up the 40 pound one piece mat.
For what is it worth, Stall Liner is literally a no-brainer. Purchase a Stall Liner and get started. Test it yourself. You have nothing to lose and absolutely everything to gain. Then, when you are ready, finish out your remaining stalls with Stall Liners.
How does Stall
Liner hold up?
This product has been in use since 1995 – original installation and in use in our barn since 2001. This performance has shown this material to be the ultimate in equine stall mats.
Why should I buy
Stall Liner and not something else?
Because when you purchase Stall Liner, you are getting the real deal. No bells, no whistles, no name, no advertising, no gimmicks or tricks, just a plain and simple - a bare bones, hold nothing back, a Stall Liner that will do the job, perform and save you money.
Why can I not get discounted or even
free shipping with Stall Liner?
We will not skimp on any material used and produce a lower quality product, just to offset the cost of shipping. We sell a proven product that will deliver performance, durability and have the quality that your money is paying for.
Why is Stall
Liner less expensive? What is the catch?
The catch is you are getting the Stall Liner and nothing else. No fast sales talk, no pricey marketing or fancy box. You will get only the fabric/material. The Stall Liner is shipped in a plain brown box - with instructions for installation. So why pay more for less?
I want to see the difference between
the products (Stall Liner, Stall Skin, Stall Saver
Well, that may be hard to do but photos are shown on this page and you can also view the mini videos. We will be happy to send you a sample of our product, but you will have to contact the other companies for a sample of theirs.
What do I have to do to prepare my
stalls for a Stall Liner?
Good drainage is the key. You will need to have a base under your Stall Liner. That is, the soil/earth must be well drained. The base requires rock, gravel, crushed stone, bits or filings (or what ever your area of the country calls it) under your Stall Liner. This rock or stone material needs to range in size from a pea to an almond and should be 4 to 8 inches deep. This will ensure good drainage and allow your Stall Liner to breath and reduce or eliminate completely any ammonia type smells. This base material can be over sand or any type of sandy loam soils. If your sub soil has any type of clay in it, you must insure that your Stall Liner will drain. You can test your drainage by pouring a 5-gallon pail of water on the ground in a steady flow. If the water spreads more than 8 inches in diameter on the ground, you do not have good drainage and may need to make a leach or drainage pit anywhere from 9 inches to 2 feet wide and 2 to 3 feet deep filled with gravel. Then have your stall floor sloping ever so slightly to this area.
So what else do I have to do?
You will be purchasing a quality product that is proven to go the distance. Period. However you will not be receiving the convenience of kit, as you would when purchasing a premium product such as Stall Skin. You will have to do some work. You will have to purchase the molding, base board or pine boards (1 x 3) that are needed to hold the Stall Liner in place against your walls. You will also have to purchase, the screws (for wood, masonry or metal) for attaching your toe kick to the wall (you may need to also purchase washers if you plan on using a plastic or rubber molding instead of wood). So work is involved. But in reality, what is not work when dealing with livestock or for a long-term investment? Remember, this work is a ONE-time deal as this is a Proven Product, endorsed and used by Hill View Farms and backed with 16 years of R & D.
What is my savings if I purchase
First: Your savings is by buying the material only.
Second: The thrifty local purchase or acquisition of the molding/base board for attaching Stall Liner.
Third: Your savings on bedding! PLUS labor! As this mat has the best performing drainage mat on the market, which means that you will save, save, SAVE on bedding, starting the DAY you install your Stall Liner.
Fourth is the life of your Stall Liner, as this material has proven durability with over 15 years of use.
That is all:
The bare necessity needed for Maximum Performance. So what are you waiting for? Call 507-723-5937 or email now firstname.lastname@example.org for sample, with questions or to place an order! We encourage you to shop around, as we know what our product can do and we will be working with you eventually. If that sounds cocky, it is...but it is true.
Stall Liner comes 13 feet wide, which allows for 6 inches to be folded up on each side of the stall wall. The table below is how many feet you will need for your stall size.
Kit sizes: Include molding and wood screws. Fabric in kit will measure one foot larger both ways.
X 12' =$219.00
Stall size: 12 X 16' =$275.00
Stall size: 12 X 20' =$320.00
Stall size: 12 X 24' =$415.00
Stall size: 16 X 16' =$380.00
Bulk only in roll of 150 feet: Fabric only = 1.15 per sq foot
relaxed form, Stall Skin are 5 pennies thick (3/8th inch
thick) This makes
STALL SKINS are truly Stall Savers
Other Questions that you may not have thought of asking or that other companies may not tell you
Do I need a special manure fork for the Stall Liner? Yes, you will need to use a PLASTIC fork with the Stall Liner as it can be punctured with a metal fork.
Can a horse paw through or eat the Stall Liner? Yes, a horse can paw through and also try to eat the Stall Liner. However, it will take him some time to do this. Horses that pace, weave, paw or those with neurotic behaviors may on occasion get themselves into a state of destruction. If you own or have boarders with a stallion or a neurotic horse like this, we suggest putting a heavy rubber mat under the feeder or in front of the door. For most of the anxious horses, putting extra bedding in these areas is enough to do the trick.
How often do I have to strip the stall? If you have horses in the stall daily with some turn out, about once every 4 to 6 months. Use a scoop shovel and scrape the Stall Liner clean, by drawing the shovel toward you for maximum scraping. Then allow a half-day for the Stall Liner and the base underneath to air out before adding bedding.
How do you disinfect the Stall Liner? If you have an outbreak of Strangles or a bacterial e-coli you will need to strip the stall. Use a solution of water with bleach or hydrogen peroxide and scrub down the walls- as high as you can reach include the feeder to the floor and then swab down the Stall Liner. Allow a day to dry out.
How deep should the bedding be with Stall Liner? 4- inches are sufficient. Other companies with other products may require more due to their product being less permeable or less durable requiring the bedding in order to preserve the mats' life. We find that if you use more bedding you will spend more time looking for poop in the fluffy wood chips. However, it is not the cost of the bedding that you put into the stall, but how much bedding you take out. With Stall Liner being the most effective product on the market for drainage, the amount of soiled shavings you remove is your true cost.
How does the Stall Liner perform in freezing conditions? Outstanding. We live in Minnesota - the nation’s icebox. We keep pregnant mares in stalls and foals are born in those stalls in freezing temperatures. The worse we had was when the urine FROZE - yes... FROZE on the surface of the Stall Liner. So we just scooped that up frozen urine and put it in the manure cart. Come spring, or when things warmed up, one would have thought that the stall would smell, but there was nothing, just the normal barn smell like every year.
Will the Stall Liner smell over time? Good question. Not that we know of. Ours don’t. We have never heard from anyone saying that they do. This could be attributed to the fact that the Stall Liners drain so well, that nothing builds up. We did, however, have a foal with horrid gastric diarrhea that stunk so bad you would have thought she was going septic. So when the worst was over (thanks to Pepto-Bismol), we stripped the stall and scrubbed the walls and floor down with water and vinegar. (Vinegar neutralizes odors.)
Can I use the Stall Liner outside? You bet. Works wonderfully. You will need to anchor it down by sinking a 8 x 8 RR tie or other post lower than the soil surface, nailing the Stall Liner to it and then covering the post with earth. That way it will appear as if the Stall Liner goes underground. State Parks use this method under their horse high lines, as well as outside paddocks. They will cover the Stall Liner with cedar bark or wood chips.
Does the Stall Liner offer cushioning? Absolutely. In fact, many locations will put Stall Liner up on the walls to help with kickers - when they do not want to use kicking chains. This material is like a carpet. A stall carpet if you will. It is lovely. Bear in mind that this is the same material - only thicker – that the bomb squad uses to cover precious statues and buildings in order to preserve them when they are imploding buildings in urban and metro areas.
Can I put the Stall Liner over concrete? No. If you put the Stall Liner directly over concrete it will have no way of draining and drying out. It will smell to high heaven! You will need to put Linear Ring Mats over the concrete to elevate the Stall Liner so that it will drain the urine through. Make sure you take a mason saw and cut channels in the concrete as to direct the flow of urine to a collection area or leach pit. Some folks will just take a hammer drill and break up the concrete and then put rock over it and then the Stall Liner. That works great as the Stall Liner can drain and be allowed to dry out from time to time.
Can I use pelletted bedding with Stall Liner? YES. But with this smaller bedding you may need a special finer toothed fork.
Can I use sawdust or sand as bedding over Stall Liner? Some folks do. But we do not recommend it as the sand may have clay in it and will compact and plug the micro-filament pathways in the Stall Liner that allow the urine to pass through. This is the same with sawdust. This gets so fine that it can pack like concrete. You do not want anything that will plug the draining capacity of your Stall Liner.
Stall Liner is the ONLY stall mat that literally pays for itself in 6 months, in bedding costs that are NOT thrown away with the manure.
You will need the following tools for easy installation:
Shovel and dirt rake for leveling
Utility knife (with new blade)
Step 1: Prep Stall Area
Step 2: Stall Skins placement
Step 3: Trim
Step 4: Install Ample Bedding
"The Leach Pit" For Horses That Urinate Everywhere
In the center of the stall:
For Horses That Urinate in One Place (God bless them)
At urine area:
Firm base of crushed rock Screw on molding through the material
Remove any excess material with utility knife and install Ample Bedding
How much bedding is ample? Good question! Below are our stalls and how we at Hill View Farms do it. Please note that we have installed Ring Mats over our concrete floors with Stall Liner over the mats. You can see the ring) impressions from these mats on the Stall Liner in some of the photos below. Our Stall Liner have been in use since 3/02.
The mare using the stall in the photo to the left likes to stir bedding and manure around. We move the bedding around, remove the “poppies” and then find the wet spots. We move away the dry chips and then fork out (using a plastic fork), the dinner-plate-size, one-inch-high, pile of wet chips. We leave the wet area open to dry during the day when she is turned out. When she returns to her stall we kick the chips around, covering the floor. Some horses need more bedding and some less. If your horse likes to paw, then you will need more bedding where they paw. (Such as the doorway.) This helps prevent the Stall Liner from getting fuzzy. If you have a horse that is a nibbler and likes to chew, they may find chewing/biting the Stall Liner good sport. So you will need more bedding in that area. We never have had to use more than 4 inches, and at times, that is too much in some areas. If you know where your horse likes to pee, then you can put a smaller amount of chips there controlling the spread of urine, and allowing the urine to run through.
To the left are two of our large foaling stalls. The back of the stall is where our mare likes to do business. She is VERY neat! We love it! About once a week, we scrape clean the Stall Liner using a scoop shovel or plastic pitch fork (Don likes to use the shovel – Cathy uses the plastic fork), allowing it to completely dry during the day when the mare is out.
The photo to the right is yet another stall. This mare loves to pee in the center and nowhere else. So every day with a plastic pitchfork we pick out the manure and then once a week we scrape the Stall Liner - in the wet spots so that it can dry during the day. We have never had to use a deodorizer - even in the Winter or Spring when things are frozen or thawing here in Minnesota.
How often do you replace bedding? Good question. I just measured that. In the past 5 days, with 4 stalls - with 4 mares due to foal within 2 weeks - defecating for two, we put in only 3 bags of chips. Each of the larger stalls got one bag (actually too much) and then the smaller stalls received half bag each. I put less chips where they defecate and more where they lay down and paw by the door-way. I can't tell you enough how nice Stall Liner are! Pitching stalls is a dream, you just throw out the mess with hardly any chips. So how often do you strip your stalls? That is a good question. We don't ever have to strip our stalls for the normal reasons, such as; wet, smelly, totally nasty bedding, shifting mats, etc. We strip because some of the chips are so OLD and have been stepped on so many times that the chip is now just mashed into sawdust. These "crushed chips", gray in color are nasty looking and can be dusty. Therefore once a year, or every year and a half, we scoop out these old chips.
Our Stall Liners paid for themselves in ONE year with what we saved buying fewer wood chips. Not to mention the storage space required to always have enough chips on hand and the extra trips to buy more.
Wall application? YES! Here at Hill
View Farms we tested this fabric as a barrier to help cushion the blow
of a kick to the stall wall. It was easy to install, (shinny side out)
and we screwed it right in to the wall. (If you have stone or
masonry walls you will need to use Topcon screws). The Stall Liner
folded easily around the corners and corner post so too will it fold
around uneven masonry with the extra trimmed off.
It is like
wall-papering –WONDERFUL! But if you have a wood chewing beaver horse this will
not stop him.
As an interesting side note, demolition teams preparing large structures for implosion, use this very fabric to cover the windows of neighboring buildings and other sensitive targets, protecting them from the implosion of the targeted building.
Stall Liners....Are stall savers!
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